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shiina and hime arrive
describing the podcast
"why should we trust you? ... that was your first mistake" + shiina met with sakana and was told she needs more brainrot memes
tiktok historian himemiya rie tells you about the goonicide + shiina ran into a couple going at it in a parking lot on valentines day
will shiina and rie cover APT? yes + a bit about shiina's original song + rie has a few songs all in limbo atm
hime and cece have been traumabonding over the visual novel + hime was running the vn in OBS live + chat always loses stream choice games
a lot of people submitted maros about fumbling with girls
shiina fumbled her way out of a gay love triangle - jessica + shiina did a dramatical murder yaoi photoshoot and kissed her
hime's own jessica and yaoi yuri story - almost had her first kiss in crossdressing yaoi
scarlet johansson was hime's large gay awakening + attractiveness chats about assorted actors
theater and art classes turn people gay - hime saw more gay people at art school in beijing than anywhere else in her life
shiina "you're so gay! you're so homosexual!" + f wordy + chinese girls only lap dances + chinese period dramas and eunuchs
eunuchs became concubines, and chinese yaoi is huge + chinese censorship of yaoi
attraction versus romance + cultivating masculinity
mixing up andrew tate and johnny somali
a friend had a gay crush on hime and then ended up dating her cousin, turns out to actually hate her + shiina's crush on a short king
hime's school was rap/88rising loving edging kids + hime had a classmate yell at another "go back to the cotton fields" - shiina can't mention her biggest school event + brief senior prank talk
shiina's school was actually evil and produced a ton of financiers + hime's made 3 big corpo vtubers + shiina's private instagram - got caught by an underclassmen of hers
"it's the same beaches" between vtubing and cossplaying - vtubers are cossplayers, utaites, or egirls + making fun of the dramafiends
a lot of people had the same issues and experiences and questions
|--- 1st - sudden ending of a long term relationship, lack of closure - don't blame yourself
runie raid
One of the key principles of stoic philosophy is being able to let things "be". We cannot and will not be able to control what other people do or decide, without becoming malevolent ourselves. Yes, I understand it's frustrating to not know why painful things happen to us. Especially if that painful thing is caused by someone else's, someone we love's, actions. As much as we want to know why they did what they did, we can't force that out of them. Best you can do for that person and, most impirtantly, for yourself is to leave it there. Try to learn to let things go, even if it's without an explanation. Let letting go be your closure. It's sounds simple, but it's definitely not easy. To some, it's probably even close to impossible. But trust me, it's damn well worth it.
''Four years is nothing'' okay honeybun
hime's philosophy "people that come into your life, you never stop loving"
|--- 2nd - how to tell if a girl is a psycho - you don't get into your first real fight until 3 years in
I can do it in three months
"you know what happens to most modern marriages? WOMP WOMP"
some common red flags to look for + alias gets along very well - people in phase respect each other even when they have disagreements
|--- 3rd - how many love confessions through this? - it was 95% genuine submissions
|--- 4th - how to not fall in love with a vtuber? - it's okay to take a step back if it stops being fun
content creators are showing the most idealized version of themselves, not their "true" selves
girls are even crazier with parasocial relationships - they cope by reading and drawing poon + the issue of predatory GFE "we as vtubers are here to entertain"
really loud grandma sneeze
vtubers dream of vtuber models - shiina dreams about shondo a lot
"hoars are accepted here... as erina makina once said"
No particular reason, but personal timestamp for me to remember
|--- 5th - getting crushed by a sanrio girl and how to get over it - don't focus on other's expectations for you
shiina has a friend who has never been single "it's okay to be single" + shiina is considering freezing her eggs
erehwon the expensive grocery store + "go honorary white girl go"
chat and streamers are both happy that the stream is taken seriously
|--- 6th - best idea for celebrating a 16th anniversary? - hiking appalachia? a cruise?
eva ananova raid
shiina rode a hot air balloon and had a rough landing + hime is afraid of heights
|--- 7th - how to love oneself enough to love another? - the first step is physical care of yourself + shiina inspired hime to take better care of herself
I spit coffee all over my keyboard 😂
shiina had extremely poor health and care when she joined phase - they were/are both losing hair + don't live worse than people in jail
|--- 8th - liking girls that are already taken and improving to become the netori (wot)
homie said “I’m gonna be the villain!” I love it LMAO
shiina knows a lot of girls who get stabilized by a relationship "that beach was crazy, now she's a perfect tradwife... the guy fixed her"
arriana grande is a homewrecker + the weirdness of poly couples "do not be the side sausage"
|--- 9th - money and relationships - it depends, but be careful of people who are just going to leech off of you - the trad lifestyle now is different
Thank you for the stream. Was a very relevant question for a lot of single guys out there and you both gave very helpful perspectives a lot of us needed to hear.
hime compares it to the greatest showman + these women aren't looking for you, they look to babytrap cryptobros
|--- 10th - how to move on from someone you loved passing? - seek out others that have also experienced loss
hime always thought support groups are cringe
"what do you want from me, my butthole or my sneezes?"
|--- 11th - how to deal with the parasocial boundaries as a vtuber - hime and shiina compare it to a relationship with a boss, and the status difference involved
meta commentary from shiina on freinds, attention, boundaries, etc - if you want viewers to respect your boundaries, you need to respect theirs
as a viewer you need to question if this is the kind of relationship/boundary you want too - it can cross the boundary to egirl servers where you're more of a resource + hime HATES bitos for having say gex in her chat
"the egirl industry"
back to chatting
don't feel bad if you have a different opinion - shiina hates self-victimization
therapy doesn't work and is a scam most of the time for men + shiina was trying too hard to be an idol, and hime was too naive last time
shower and brush your teeth and start small taking care of yourself
